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Jan 23, 2023

This was both an easy and tough episode to record.


John Giuliano being one of my mentors and heroes, I could talk about him for days (or more). But to really capture the essence of what he brings us, with his Being, is beyond my ability to share.


But, you know, Nate and I did our best.


We get into Romero, Gandhi, John’s history with prisons, the difference between having an orchestrated plan and having an unorchestrated exploration, and what lies in between.


Nate retells his favorite moment (Archbishop Romero being converted by a tomato).


And we end with an invitation: If you are moved by John’s story and want to visit his village in El Salvador, I want to take you. I’m not sure when, or how, but I’m going to make it happen. It changed my life 21 years ago, and it’ll change my life again. And yours. And your kids. Etc.


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